Piper PA-28R-201 N4184M and Piper PA-28-161 N8115Q accident near Chandler, Arizona

Oct 5, 2012 · NTSB number WPR13LA004 · Final report

Probable cause

The failure of both flight instructors to see and avoid the other airplane while providing instrument flight training, which resulted in a midair collision.

NTSB analysis

During instructional flights with a flight instructor and a student pilot on board each airplane, a Piper Warrior and a Piper Arrow collided in midair during day visual meteorological conditions. The instructors reported that their students were simulating instrument conditions and were wearing view-limiting devices as they practiced instrument maneuvers. Both flight instructors reported that they saw the other airplane only moments before the collision and were not aware of other aircraft in the area.

Neither airplane was using flight following services nor did they have any radar guidance during the flight. A review of recorded radar data for the area depicted two targets on a southwesterly heading, one ahead of the other. The targets were spaced about 2 miles apart and both were at 4,000 feet mean sea level. The rear target, the Arrow, changed its southwesterly heading to a westerly heading, and shortly after, the target identified as the Warrior started a wide right turn. Both airplanes were flying toward each other when the Warrior’s right wing and the Arrow’s left wing collided.

After the collision, both airplanes subsequently made uneventful landings.

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Event

Date
Oct 5, 2012
Type
Accident
Place
Chandler, Arizona
Nearest airport
Chandler Municipal Airport (CHD)
Highest injury
None
Weather
Visual (VMC)
Light
Day

Piper PA-28R-201

N-number
N4184M
Category
Airplane
Damage
Substantial
Operating rule
Part 91 (general aviation)
Purpose of flight
Instructional

Piper PA-28-161

N-number
N8115Q
Category
Airplane
Damage
Substantial
Operating rule
Part 91 (general aviation)
Purpose of flight
Instructional

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