Piper PA 28-161 N84175 accident near Palatka, Florida

Aug 25, 2017 · NTSB number ERA17CA295 · Final report

Probable cause

The student pilot's overpriming of the engine and the flight instructor's delayed remedial action, which resulted in an engine fire.

NTSB analysis

The flight instructor, student pilot, and pilot-rated passenger flew on a short cross-country instructional flight to practice stop-and-go landings. On the first landing, after touchdown, the student pilot reduced the engine power to idle, and the engine lost total power. The airplane stopped on the runway, and the student pilot noted that the electric fuel pump was still on from landing and that the mixture control was full forward. He tried to start the engine while he "pumped" the throttle, but it did not start. He stated he thought the engine was flooded, so he turned off the electric fuel pump and pulled the mixture control to the "off" position, but again the engine would not restart. He then pushed the mixture control back to full forward and tried to start the engine while pumping the throttle a couple more times, but the engine did not start. The student pilot then saw smoke coming out of the engine cowling and notified the flight instructor and passenger.

The flight instructor performed the "engine fire on start checklist," told everyone to egress, and went to the cargo door to get the fire extinguisher while the passenger opened the engine cowling. When the flight instructor looked at the fire extinguisher, she noticed it was empty. The flight instructor and passenger noted that the fire was at the bottom of the engine around the carburetor and gaining in intensity. The passenger located a fire extinguisher at the airport's fixed-base operator, and when he returned, the engine compartment was fully engulfed by fire. Subsequently, the fire was extinguished by the portable extinguishers and the local fire department.

Examination of the airplane revealed that the engine compartment, engine mounts, and firewall were substantially damaged by fire. The flight instructor reported no mechanical malfunctions or failures with the airplane that would have precluded normal operation.

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Event

Date
Aug 25, 2017
Type
Accident
Place
Palatka, Florida
Nearest airport
Palatka Muni - Lt Kay Larkin F (28J)
Highest injury
None
Weather
Visual (VMC)
Light
Day

Piper PA 28-161

N-number
N84175
Category
Airplane
Year built
1981
Damage
Substantial
Operating rule
Part 91 (general aviation)
Purpose of flight
Instructional

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